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    A small world

    We have our landline, broadband and TV services from Sky. Mostly it's OK, but we do have problems from time to time. These are usually solved by a phone call to Sky (if you can get through) Sometimes they are temporary and just right themselves. A couple of weeks ago we realised both our phones were on 4G, not our internet. We


    The above link will take you to my thread about our recent Sky and broadband problems. This is relevant!

    As I said there the neighbour hasn't spoken to us in the 15 years we have lived here. He can be working in his front garden and won't look up or speak if you pass closely by.
    A couple of times several years ago a Christmas card was hand delivered to our house for them. They live next door but one. OH took the card round, knocking to check it was for them as we weren't sure of their names. The wife answered and said thanks. The next year the same happened and OH knocked again to ask if they would tell their friends that it was the wrong house. This time M, the husband answered and reacted as though OH had arrived unannounced for 3 course meal, rather than doing them a favour! Didn't thank her for dropping off their card.
    So, we havent liked M, long before the Sky and fence digging debacle.


    As you probably know I volunteer at our local library. I am there almost every Tuesday morning. There are volunteers for most though not all days. We rarely see each other unless we call in on days we don't volunteer. On my Tuesdays there is sometimes another volunteer, who can only do an hour, as he starts work later that day. He isn't there every week, I would say two or three out of four, but it varies. I have worked with him for over a year.
    He seems efficient but in fact has little actual knowledge of the library system and comes up to me most weeks for help. I try not to make him look silly when its usually flipping obvious where the book will be found and sort of make out I find it by chance (when in fact I go straight to it) He finds the children's library particularly challenging and have explained a few things to him, such as Pb is paperback not Picture Book (which is Picb) and TNGfic is teenage. I don't blame him for this as I feel there should more training for this role, we just pick it up by observing or asking the librarian. The daily Pick list where we find reserved books on the shelves is a particular bugbear to him and I will volunteer for that to his obvious relief.
    This is to show you that we get along well for the short time we spend together and more importantly whilst not trying to blow my own trumpet I am very helpful to him.



    One day during the Sky situation I was looking through the front window and saw neighbour M faffing about as usual. I said to OH . M looks very like M from the library from here! This seemed a preposterous idea, 1 - That he would volunteer for anything 2 - That we could be volunteers living two doors apart and 3 - That we didn't recognise each other.

    I sort of dismissed it until his wife came to say her OH didn't want the fence digging up and told us he was only available on Tuesday mornings, as that's when the digging must happen.
    Same name, free part of Tuesday morning, similar appearance. Lots of coincidences here. So it was on my mind for days, with OH saying No it can't be him!
    His wife recently joined the street WhatsApp group to I now knew M's surname.

    On Tuesday, we worked together as usual, him being very glad I took the Pick List and when he left I wished him Merry Christmas. Still believing the coincidences. When I signed out at the end of the morning I noticed his name on the volunteer list. The same surname as the neighbour. For some reason it hadn't occurred to me to check the name on there before.

    So unfriendly pesky neighbour M and library M who works alongside me and relies on me for help are one and the same person!!!!!

    At the library he is heads down on with his work. I always say good morning him when I spot him, he never seeks me out and I have never seen him interact with customers. He only goes into the office to sign in and out not chat as I do. So I suppose there are similar traits to his behaviour as a neighbour. It shows he can however be friendly when he needs to be for his own purposes!

    I do feel very tempted to stop giving him any help, considering how unhelpful a neighbour he has been to us.
    I have no idea if M has known all along who I am, but I had no idea about him.
    I think I may PM his wife, just to say I have realised that her M is the M I work with at the library and see what she says!
    β€œA grandchild fills a space in your heart that you never knew was empty.” – Unknown

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    I would Gem
    Plus maybe when you see him next just say good morning neighbour casually to see his reaction 😁

    Some people like MIL have a different face for different situations,
    Grumpy as hell to some people but puts a friendly face on for others ,
    M may be the same 😁
    Im not fat just 6ft too small

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      #3
      Gem, what a interesting situation. It sounds as though M has real problems interacting with people in general. My guess is he doesn't realise the helpful lady at the library and his near neighbour are one and the same.

      He could just be a grumpy, rather sour person who thinks the world is against him, or it could be something undiagnosed (autism springs to mind) which results in poor facial recognition, and inability to read facial expressions.

      It must be galling to realise how much this difficult man relies on you at the library though, and I can understand you wondering whether to say something, or simply stop giving him help. I think I would opt for a middle road. Help him (for the greater good of the library) but let him know that you understand the system he finds so baffling. Don't hide your light under a bushel!

      I wonder how he gets on with his wife?




      "Joy is what happens to us when we allow ourselves to recognise how good things really are. "

      (Marianne Williamson)

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        #4
        Daisy after thinking long and hard about all this on and off over Christmas, I feel M is probably on the Spectrum somewhere. I understand him better as neighbour now I 'know' him from another world!

        His wife is friendly . Once she realised I run the Whats App group she joined and has been super helpful and friendly to everyone! She hadn't joined initially as she was a bit suspicious, and predictably M hasn't joined.
        They don't have any family and as far as we can tell and don't seem to have much of a social life. I think being married to M must be challenging!
        β€œA grandchild fills a space in your heart that you never knew was empty.” – Unknown

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          #5
          Gem, it certainly sounds like he's on the Spectrum. I remember when GS1, newly diagnosed, aged nearly 3, went to a specialist unit in a nursery where he was taught things like facial recognition, to interpret facial expressions, to understand social cues - things like a visitor gets up and puts their coat on = they're leaving. Social cues that most of us understand without any explanation, but for GS1 they were incomprehensible.

          The neighbour's wife sounds lovely, and probably welcomes some social interaction with the rest of your Whats App group. It must be difficult for her, but presumably as they're still together there must be a relationship between them that works in some way. Getting to know the wife better may help you to understand the difficult husband a bit more.

          Aren't relationships fascinating!
          "Joy is what happens to us when we allow ourselves to recognise how good things really are. "

          (Marianne Williamson)

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            #6
            Gemini, you have tried your best to get this gentleman to interact with you. Think it is good that he will have contact with you at the library.
            What is life if full of care we have no time to stand and stare

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              #7
              Or he might just be a grumpy old b*****r.
              Sometimes I forget to like posts,but that doesn't mean I don't like them.

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                #8
                I’d be tempted to say something like: Are you M that lives near me in such and such a road? Just to see what his reaction is! If he doesn’t respond or say he is, then I’d just be polite and let him work things out for himself.
                Does he ask anyone other than you for help? If not, I’d be busy when he asks you sometimes and just see what he does.
                I know that sounds a bit harsh, but I can’t believe that he doesn’t know who you are.
                Believe you can and you're halfway there.
                Theodore Roosevelt.

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                  #9
                  WG it would only be me the the staff he could ask and I think he is too embarrassed to ask the staff!
                  Asking them is how we learn though which is why he can be a bit clueless
                  β€œA grandchild fills a space in your heart that you never knew was empty.” – Unknown

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                    #10
                    Gem, he must recognise you, as WG said, he will know who you are. Is he elderly?

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                      #11
                      WG and Lizzie, I didn't recognise him so he may not recognise me!
                      It was only because his wife told me that he is free Tuesday mornings and I learned their surname, through her that I put two and two together!
                      He still works full time, so I'm guessing a bit younger than me.

                      I intend to let his wife know that I have made the connection and see if she says that M already knew!
                      β€œA grandchild fills a space in your heart that you never knew was empty.” – Unknown

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                        #12
                        Gem, it will be interesting to see what she says. It sounds rather as though he hasn't made the connection though.
                        "Joy is what happens to us when we allow ourselves to recognise how good things really are. "

                        (Marianne Williamson)

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                          #13
                          Talking of a small world,
                          When DD &SIL came the other day she was telling us about a nice girl she often talks too when she's walking the dog ,
                          This girl also has a husky,
                          Her and SIL had bumped into her on the way to ours and , she said she had just found out the girls name and the name of her dog ,
                          We immediately knew who she was she is actually a relative,
                          Her father is Bs cousin ,

                          I messaged her on FB to check and yes it was her,
                          We had a good laugh , she said obviously being cousins we were drawn to each other 😁
                          They even live on the same estate just different ends,

                          Im not fat just 6ft too small

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                            #14
                            [QUOTE=Oma;n243845]Talking of a small world,
                            When DD &SIL came the other day she was telling us about a nice girl she often talks too when she's walking the dog ,
                            This girl also has a husky,
                            Her and SIL had bumped into her on the way to ours and , she said she had just found out the girls name and the name of her dog ,
                            We immediately knew who she was she is actually a relative,
                            Her father is Bs cousin ,

                            I messaged her on FB to check and yes it was her,
                            We had a good laugh , she said obviously being cousins we were drawn to each other 😁
                            They even live on the same estate just different ends,

                            That’s a lovely encounter. Long may they keep the connection.

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                              #15
                              How lovely Oma.

                              After I had been volunteering at the library for a long time DD and GS1 called in. It's not their local library so hadn't been before.
                              DD and L, the manager of the community centre the library is within recognised each other straight away. I had known L a couple of years by then and had lots of chats with her.
                              It turned out that her son and GS1 were best friends! I knew her son's name and GS's friends were the same, and she knew my GS's name but neither boy has an unusual name and we had never discussed which school they went to!
                              β€œA grandchild fills a space in your heart that you never knew was empty.” – Unknown

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